Cenk Şahin – Is it over now?

Update, 14th October: Sahin has been released from his duty at FCSP.

It was in July 2016, when the FC St.Pauli signed a young Turkish also playing for the U-national team. Enver Cenk Şahin came as a loan from Basaksehir and was so enthusiastic in his 27 league appearances (four goals, six assists) that the cheers of all fans were so great when after a year the loan was converted into a fixed change, after all, for circulated 1.3 million € (= most expensive purchase in the club’s history).

One and a half years later (January 2019), the once-great love (“Cenk ein das Ding“) was noticeably cold, followed by a loan to FC Ingolstadt and a return in summer, which obviously didn’t really inspire anyone.

What had happened? From a sportive aspect, it was often difficult for him in the respective system, because his undisputed offensive strengths were often thwarted by his blatant weaknesses in defensive work and, above all, his general understanding of defensive work.

Additionally, for the fan scene, he was the exact opposite of fan favourite Deniz Naki, who made no secret of his love of Erdogan on his Instagram account.

After his return, he asserted via the media that he now wanted to know it again, but after all, he wasn’t able to show it on the pitch. Probably also because Luhukay requires a certain fitness for his system, which was probably not yet given at Cenk.

Well, today the test game against SV Werder is scheduled, and thus the chance for the people from the second row. And indeed, a look at Cenk Şahin should be the most exciting one, at least before the kick-off. 

Because the question is: Is he in the squad at all?

That this question even exists is due to his Instagram story which he posted yesterday:

Translation of the social media post: We are at the side of our heroic military and armies. Our prayers are with you” says Cenk Şahin who is currently playing for the FC St. Pauli

And now it’s going to be difficult.

A player of FC St.Pauli who advocates for a war of aggression? Who doesn’t appear for the first time with statements that can be frankly described as nationalistic?

The protest in the social networks came quickly and should not have surprised the club – normally not the player either because he had already run into headwinds with his last political statements.

Demands for consequences by the club were to be read, partly in addition to statements which barely left any space for any sophistication or distinction.

Today, USP published a statement, which in its clarity leaves little room for maneuver and even a nomination of Şahin for the squad seems rather unlikely.

So what comes now is my personal view of things, which of course is absolutely from the outside and doesn’t claim to be completely flawless.

First of all: I agree with USP that due to the repeated statements of Şahin I don’t want to see any more appearance of him in any squad of the FCSP.

This is FC St. Pauli, a club which aims to stand for certain values in professional football more than any other club and from my point of view will continue to stand for them. The support of a regime like that of Erdogan is hardly – if not at all – compatible with these values, and by no means is the direct support of a war of aggression against a suppressed population group. If Şahin would silently think but not articulate it, this would be bad enough. However, public statements on his channels (>14,000 Instagram followers) cross a line, especially in case of repetition. 

Let us come to the “but”: What Şahin writes here should fall under the concept of freedom of opinion. We don’t have to like this opinion and we don’t have to share it, but many people in Turkey will think like him and probably also many people with Turkish roots who live in Germany do. 

From our point of view, Erdogan may be a despot or even dictator, in Turkey, he is democratically legit. Like Donald Trump, by the way, who also plays an important supporting role in the current conflict.

Is it now permissible to publicly curtail the opinion of a player where we would otherwise always wish to see mature players? Because in this case, his opinion does not suit us and we think it is fundamentally wrong?

What would a comparable case be for a German player abroad? Isn’t Deniz Naki a good example of how we react when something similar happens abroad, just “the other way round”?

Where do you draw the line between what’s still allowed and what’s too much? 

My answer to most of the above questions is clearly „yes/no”. 

Of course, we have to accept his opinion. But we (as a fan scene and as a club) have to take a clear stand against this opinion and, if necessary, draw the necessary consequences, regardless of possible labour law scenarios.

If a player of the FCSP would ever make a positive public statement about the AfD (which is also democratically legitimized), the consequences would hopefully also be clear quickly, even if this would fall under the expression of opinion under labour law.

But we are the FC St.Pauli. While other professional clubs in Germany or other countries would perhaps be able to moderate something like this away more easy or even keep it silent, this will not work at the FC St. Pauli and particularly not in this case.

And that’s a good thing.

For me, it is clear that what Şahin has written falls under “freedom of opinion” and should not even be enough for a warning under labour law.

And nevertheless: I hope that the club knows how to draw the correct consequences – and from my point of view, these consequences can only be that the club, however, keeps on paying Şahin up to the winter break for training only but gets him transferred to somewhere, if necessary also without any reimbursement. And the resulting negative transfer balance, which is due to the once paid 1.3 million must then simply be accounted as “learned the hard way”. 

The player himself has now set his Instagram account to “private”. But since there are sure to be enough fans still following him or already followed him before, this is unlikely to change much.

Update: And while I was writing this, the club also published a statement. A good and quick statement for in between, of course, you can and should work on it now in peace and with no further rush.

// Maik (translated by @Parneq)

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9 thoughts on “Cenk Şahin – Is it over now?

  1. khmeristani says:

    warum wird eigentlich immer und fälschlicherweise behauptet, sahin sei unser rekordtransfer? ugur incemann hat damals 2,8 millionen dm gekostet, sahin umgerechnet “nur” 2,5 millionen dm.

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  2. Team Popper says:

    Mit Verlaub, Frodo, aber das ist ein ganz schwacher Kommentar, dessen argumentative Grundstruktur (natürlich nicht inhaltlich!) erstaunlich stark an AfD & Co erinnert. Letztendlich läuft er auf ein “Das wird man ja wohl noch sagen können dürfen!” hinaus und relativiert den Faschismus der AKP. Über die demokratische Legitimation Erdogan darf übrigens durchaus diskutiert werden, das ist aber ein Nebenkriegsschauplatz. Entscheidend ist, dass das Argument “demokratisch gewählt” kein Gutes ist, denn damit ließe sich auch ein NPD-Mitglied in den Reihen des FCSP rechtfertigen.

    Dass dann auch noch mahnend mit dem Zeigefinger auf das schöne Geld, was man jetzt ja endgültig verlieren würde, verwiesen wird, rundet den Kommentar auf unangenehme Art ab. Ja, das Geld mag weg sein, aber genau daran zeigt sich doch, wie ernst es der FCSP mit seinen eigenen Werten meint. Ein großes “Kein Fußbreit den Faschisten” auf der Gegengrade ist bedeutungslos, wenn diese Aussage nicht auch gelebt wird.

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    1. Maik says:

      Mit Verlaub, dann müssen wir uns hier wohl auf unterschiedliche Sichtweisen einigen.
      Ich sehe bei meinem Text absolut null “Das wird man ja wohl noch sagen dürfen”, im Gegenteil.
      Und das das Geld abzuschreiben ist um für die eigenen Werte gerade zu stehen, schreibe ich auch. Offensichtlich interpretieren wir meine Aussagen dann eben sehr unterschiedlich.

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    2. Flippa says:

      Welcher mahnende Zeigefinger denn? Das Geld ist in dem Fall irrelevant. Oder ist “notfalls auch ohne Ablöse” anders zu verstehen?
      Leider darf man solche Aussagen “hier” tätigen – strafbar ist es nicht. Maik macht klar, dass zwischen “hier” (Rechtssystem in Deutschland) und “hier” (FC St. Pauli) unterschieden werden soll. Und genau deswegen lässt sich braune, faschistische, homophobe, sexistische und rassistische Scheiße schlicht nicht in den Reihen des FCSP rechtfertigen. Egal, wie demokratisch oder undemokratisch etwas gewählt wurde. Die Konsequenzen, die der Verein aus den Aussagen von Sahin ableiten muss und kann, sind eindeutig skizziert und gefordert.

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  3. einfuerallemal says:

    Ich finde die Forderung nach Auflösung seines Arbeitsvertrages nicht nur arbeitsrechtlich sehr kritisch, sondern auch ziemlich abgehoben, aber das nur nebenbei.
    Ich denke, Luhukay wird weder Sahin noch der Mannschaft noch der Moral der Truppe einen Gefallen tun, ihn noch einmal aufzustellen. Denn in diesem Fall kann ich mir das bisher unmöglich scheinende vorstellen: Dass ein St. Pauli-Spieler vom eigenen Publikum ausgepfiffen wird. Und wenn das wirklich und konsequent passiert, wird am Ende ein Wechsel für ihn umgänglich sein.

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  4. Sven says:

    Liebe Millernton-Leude!

    (Mittlerweile) gestern um die Mittagszeit wurde ich auf das IMHO richtige Statement von USP zur “Causa Cenk Şahin” aufmerksam.

    In meinem Umfeld war es heute Thema, auf Social Media ebenso. Bei dem Versuch, mir mal ein Bild zu machen, verschiedne Perspektiven zu betrachten, bin ich auf das hier gestoßen:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/11/world/middleeast/turkey-syria-kurds.html

    (Interessant auch der twitter-link innerhalb, sowie die Leserkommentare am Ende des NY-Times-Artikels.

    Erklärt ein wenig, was die US-Außenpolitik damit zu tun hat und warum der FC St. Pauli jetzt von türkischen Nationalisten gedisst wird, finde ich..)

    Grüße

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